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Christianity in India


CHRISTIANITY IN INDIA

Swami Vivekananda

(A lecture delivered at Detroit on March 11, 1894 and reported

in the Detroit Free Press)

Christian Persecution in India: The Real Story

By Francois Gautier

[We have heard about what the Christians in India have called the persecutions against them. However, there is much more to this story than we often hear, and there are certainly two sides to it. The following is a first-hand investigative article that relates what has really been going on with the Christians in India, much of which has been kept from the public. This shows the duplicity in the Christian activities in India. This article, by Francois Gautier, is reprinted from the “Annual Research Journal, 2001″ published by the Institute for Rewriting Indian [and World] History.]

CHRISTIAN AGGRESSION. 

CRUSADE WATCH.

P o l i t i c s    o f    C o n v e r s i o n ~ F r o m  H i n d u  W i s h d o m .

The Politics of Christian Conversion.

Missionary conversion to Christianity in India spreading hatered against Hindus…..

Converted Hindus – Christians…. Coming to true religion of peace.

SEMI NUDE DANCE IN CHRISTIAN CHURCHES IN INDIA TO ATTRACT INDIAN YOUTH. 

Christians spreading hatred against Hindu Dharma _ CNN IBN.

Christian Missionary attack on India (part 1 of 3)

Christian Missionary attack on India (part 2 of 3)

Christian Missionary attack on India (part 3 of 3)

An invasion through comversion 1/2.

An invasion through conversion 2/2.

Courtesy to All Concerned ~ Upananda Brahmachari.

Some inputs/updates: Nun kills self, family allege abuse by church in TN: TOI.

22 comments on “Christianity in India

  1. Putcha Srinivasa Rao
    February 5, 2012

    Still so many lower cast hindus are not permitted to enter in temples. If we act like that sure one day hindus face real problems.
    If you in many parts of East Godavari and west Godavari particularly in Central Delta, we find only churchs, It looks like mini Kerala.
    you don’t find temples. Every sunday we’ll see very big masses.
    ఏదైనా కష్టం వస్తే ఆదరించే దిక్కులేదు. గుడిలోకి వెళితే, పూజలు, కొబ్బరికాయలు వాటికి దక్షిణలు,అంట డబ్బు మయం. లేని వాడి పరిస్తితి ఏమిటి. గ్రహ చారం బాగుండక జాతకం దెగ్గరకు వెళితే కాలసర్ప యోగాలు, రత్నాలు, రుద్రాక్షలు అంటూ వేలకు వేలు చెప్పడం. ఒక్క స్వామిజి అయిన వాళ్లకు ఓదార్పు మాటలు చెపుతారా, పాదపూజలకు డబ్బులు. వాళ్ళ పేటలకు వెల్ల తారా. ఈ నాటికి దేవాలయములలోకి వాళ్ళను రానీరు. ఇదంతా మనం చేసినదే. రామ రధాలు గుళ్ళ చుట్టూ, ఉన్నవారి చుట్టూ తిరుగుతాయి. ఇక రాజకీయాలలో హిందువులు అంత పనికి మాలిని వాళ్ళు లేరు. యచకః యాచకో శత్రు: . ఓట్లకోసం దేవుళ్ళను చంపేయడానికి వెనుకాడరు. అంతా మన ఖర్మ. రామ అంటే రాజకీయం. దళితులు వినాయక చవితి చేసుకుని దేముడిని నిమజ్జనం చేద్దామని చెరువుకు వెళితే వాళ్ళను ఆ ప్రాంతంకు రాకుడదని ఆంక్షలు. వాళ్ళు ఏమ్చేస్తారు.ఇది కర్నూల్ జిల్లలో జరిగింది.
    అయ్యా ఇవి ఆలోచించండి. ఒక్క ఏడాది కాదు ఒక దశాబ్దం అందరు అటు అడుగు వేస్తె సమస్య పరిష్కారం అవుతుంది. ధర్మో రక్షతి రక్షితా, జై భారత్.

    • hinduexistence
      February 5, 2012

      IMPORTANT

      Please send us lists of Temples/shrines where the entry of SC & other sections of Hindus are restricted to enter inside or to offer puja/prayer/rituals etc.

      Please send reports/photos/lists to hinduexistence@gmail.com under the subject/heading “TEMPLE ENTRY”.

      We will move accordingly.

      Vande Bharat Mataram!.

      Pankaj Srestha.

      Moderator (ISSUES)

      HINDU EXISTENCES….

    • anindya ray
      September 27, 2012

      Hinduism is against apartheid and hidden apartheid like Islam and Christianity.

  2. draktripathi
    February 20, 2012

    We should not forget that so called lower caste Hindus are our brothers.They should be given all possible help in all matters.Actually there is no such higher or lower concept in Humanity as such. There should not be any discrimination against them .In Hinduism all are equal.No Hindu scripture advocate discrimination on the basis of caste system.All are entitled to enter any Hindu temple anywhere in the world.If it happens anywhere it is because of the priest of that temple.Its is the responsibility of upper caste educated Hindus to oppose this type of practice immediately. If we help our brothers (other caste Hindus)we can easily defeat nefarious design of these, so called Christian missionaries & Muslim Ulemas.

  3. Rony
    February 26, 2012

    Christians never hatred Hindus or anyone. Jesus Christ said love your neighbours. But Christians know the truth, they are informing others and spreading about Jesus Christ that the only way to reach Heaven and see God. It doesnt mean not criticize others.

    Robert Rony. email: r4roni@gmail.com
    Bangalore,Karnataka,INDIA.

    • Partha Sarathi Chowdhury
      February 27, 2012

      HINDU GENOCIDE By Christian IN TRIPURA and else where in India.
      Source Link:http://www.christianaggression.org

      I came not to bring peace, but a sword” – Jesus Chris

      (1) For seven-year-old Shreema, 13th Jan 2002 was a special Sunday. All through the year, the girl had awaited the dawn of this day. For, that was the day one goes out and purchases new clothes, new toys and sweets, as the next day would be Makar Sankranthi — the harvest festival celebrated throughout India. The Singicherra Bazar was bustling with activity. Like Shreema’s family there were many people looking forward to a happy Makar Sankranthi. But they didn’t realise that they were violating a fatwa issued by the Baptist Church-created Christian Al-Qaeda, the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT). Nor did they know that they would pay with their lives for celebrating a heathen festival of their motherland. Shreema would never again celebrate Makar Sankranthi. She died, along with sixteen others, on the spot as 13 terrorists of the NLFT encircled the people shopping for the festival and fired indiscriminately1. The soldiers of Christ have done again in Tripura what they have been doing for centuries to heathens throughout the world. The Baptist Church of Tripura is not just the ideological mentor of the NLFT; it also supplies the NLFT with arms and ammunition for the soldiers of the holy crusade2. Never mind that the holy war involves killing infants and torching the huts of ‘heathen Hindoos’. The NLFT does all these to bring to the infidels the peace and love of Christ. So, when Nagmanlal Halam, secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, was arrested by the Tripura police he had rather curious tools for evangelisation, which included along with the gospel 50 gelatin sticks, 5 kg of potassium and 2 kg of sulphur and other ingredients for making explosives. Mr. Halam confessed that his activities for the saving the heathen souls involved buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT over the past two years. Another church official, Jatna Koloi, who was also arrested, admitted that he received training in guerrilla warfare at an NLFT base last year. Surely, gelatin and AK-47s have more efficiency when it comes to bringing the light of the only revealed truth to the disbelievers suffering in ‘spiritual darkness’. Those who are in doubt can check it out with another great light-bearer of the other ‘only true book’, Osama bin Laden (that is, when and if the prophet of terror is captured). The Baptist Church of Tripura was initially set up by proselytizers from New Zealand 60 years ago. Despite their efforts, even until 1980, only a few thousand people in Tripura had converted to Christianity. Then the Church used one of its most efficient and time-tested weapons of evangelisation — creating racial and ethnic divide among the people. In the aftermath of one of the worst ethnic riots, engineered by the Church3, the NLFT was born — but not without the midwife role of the Baptist Church. From its very inception, the NLFT has been advancing the cause of Christianity through armed persuasion. Every trace of indigenous culture is being eliminated through violent means. Every resisting group is made to bleed its way to extinction. The case of Jamatya tribals provides a telling example. These tribals have strong spiritual leaders and a network of social service organisations headed by their religious leaders. These indigenous sects are neither exclusive nor expansionist. The Baptist Church has always failed miserably in its conversion efforts with regard to this well-knit community. Hence, it is no wonder that the NLFT has made Jamatya institutions and their religious leaders the targets of their attacks. In the August of 2000, religious leaders of the Jamatya community like Jaulushmoni Jamatya and Shanti Kumar Tripura were killed by the NLFT, and Jamatya families were uprooted from their homelands and made refugees. The death threats issued by the NLFT to the inmates of these institutions have already forced the closure of 11 Jamatya institutions like schools and orphanages, set up by the slain religious leaders in various parts of Tripura4. Interestingly, these tribals are not close-minded fanatics. For one thing, they do not mind teaching the theory of evolution in their schools. The greatest challenge to the Bible inspired mission of the NLFT comes from the Sangh Parivar’s Banbasi Kalyan Kendra. The dedicated life workers of RSS have started empowering the tribals by running many educational institutions which while empowering them through imparting secular technical education also retain their tribal cultural and spiritual identity. Rather than making them disown their roots, the Kendra made the tribals feel proud of their culture. It even conducts national level tribal sports festivals. If the NLFT is to carve out a kingdom for Christ out of the secular republic of India, it has to make sure that the Kendra activities are stopped at all costs. In July 2000, armed NLFT militants torched a residential school and students hostel run by the Seva Mission in the remote Ananda Bazar area of North Tripura5. They had also taken hostage four RSS life workers. These RSS workers were all in their sixties. The crime committed by these old men was that they had dared to run educational institutions for tribals while preserving the tribals’ culture. Later, all four were killed by the NLFT. The NLFT has been an active partner of the Baptist Church in winning converts to the Christian creed. They have killed tribal priests to threaten communities and effect mass conversions. But those tactics have obviously backfired. In 2001 alone, the NLFT killed more than 20 Hindus who refused to ‘accept the love of Christ’. They also torched to death a Hindu family sleeping in a hut6. In 2001, community chiefs and religious heads of 19 tribes formed the ‘Tribal Culture Protection Committee’ to counter the threat posed by the NLFT7. Despite the NLFT taking all possible steps to enforce conversions, the conversions are still slow. Frustrated, the NLFT has now begun an all out war against Hindu tribals. They have issued fatwas against infidel activities. These fatwas prohibit people from celebrating festivals like Durga Pooja and Makar Sankranthi, listening to Indian music, watching Indian TV channels and films, and prohibit women from wearing bangles or sporting bindis, etc. Just a year before the NLFT started all these atrocities in India, the Southern Baptist Church of the United States of America had given a clarion call to bring the light of the gospel to “millions of Hindus and Jews lost in the darkness” of their religions8. >Shreema, the seven-year-old girl from Tripura, died with bullets pumped into her tender body. Her crime was that she violated the Christian fatwa which prohibited her from celebrating an Indian festival. She was not just a victim of barbaric terrorism but she is also a martyr for Indian culture, a culture that has preserved thousands of tribal customs from barbaric persecution. Yet, she will not make it to the glossy covers of the weekly magazines of English speaking Indian media. Unsubstantiated, fabricated stories of Hindu fundamentalists (an oxymoron) killing Christian priests have been making their headlines. However, these fabrications have their use. They do help in the covering up of such acts of Christian love like killing in cold blood a seven-year-old girl or burning a family to death.

      (2) August 25, 2008
      Source Link: http://www.crusadewatch.org
      Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati’s murder: Are Christian militants involved?

      Posted August 24, 2008

      (Editor’s note: Read the last paragraph, which mentions about involvement of Christian militants )

      source: Daily Pioneer, August 25, 2008
      Pioneer News service | Bhubaneswar

      # Orissa bandh today; schools, colleges to remain closed
      # Naveen announces judicial probe, ex-gratia

      Widespread anger was expressed throughout the State over the brutal killing of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati and four of his associates.

      The VHP and Bajrang Dal activists burned tyres and blocked traffic in different parts of the State to ventilate their anger on the failure of the police to give protection to Swamji. He had lodged an FIR on the local police station that his life was under threat and had sought police protection. Within 26 hours of lodging the complaint, he and his disciples were killed at Jalespata Ashram under Tumudibandh block in Kandhamal district on Saturday night.

      Fearing a backlash, the Kandhamal district administration clamped curfew in Phulbani town and prohibitory orders under section 144 CrPC throughout the district. All borders of the district were sealed. However, defying the orders, disciples of the Swami took out the Swami’s funeral procession to another ashram at Chakapada, which is nearly 100 km away from Jalespata Ashram. More than 10,000 mourners reportedly accompanied the funeral procession. The funeral procession went through Jalespata, Tumudibandh, Paramapanka, Baataguda and reached Baliguda at 3 pm. It was supposed to go through Nuaagaan, Sarangagada, Phiringia, Bisipada Chhak and Tikabali to reach his Karmabhumi Chakapada late in night.

      The people bid farewell to the departed souls with tears. People in Baliguda could not control their emotions and they even attacked the police and burnt a number of vehicles. Police had to resort to a mild lathi-charge to disperse the crowd. Reports reaching Bhubaneswar said the people were dead against the police inaction.

      VHP activists allegedly burnt down a Marshal jeep OR 07 G 5882 carrying Sisters at G Udayagiri. The Sisters were allowed to leave the vehicle, said sources. Similarly, hundreds of supporters of Swamiji were moving to Tumudibandh with agitated mood, where his body was kept for last darshan.

      In order to save its face, the district administration suspended the officer-in-charge of the Tumudibandh Police Station. However, it did not calm the anger of local people. They demanded that action should be taken against the District Collector and the SP. “Swamji had himself lodged the FIR. But the district administration could not react promptly to protect the precious lives,” said Sudarshan Bhoi, a local of Tumudibandh area.

      Reacting over the issue, the VHP and the Bajrang Dal have called for a dawn-to-dusk Orissa bandh. The BJP State unit has announced to support the bandh. In a bid to avoid further violence, the Government has ordered closure of all schools and colleges on Monday.

      In order to take stock of the situation, Chief Minister Naveen Patnaik on Sunday morning convened a high-level meeting at the State Secretariat. “All efforts would be made to arrest the culprit,” he said, adding that additional police force has been mobilised and combing operation is on to nab the culprit. Police sources said 20 platoons of police force and four companies of CRPF have been mobilised to the spot.

      Patnaik also ordered a judicial probe into the incident and announced that Rs 2 lakh ex-gratia would be given to the next of kin of the deceased.

      The situation in the tribal dominated Kandhamal district “is tense but under control” after the killing of the VHP activists last night by unidentified attackers, Kandhamal District Collector Krishan Kumar claimed.

      Meanwhile, a small thatched structure used as a prayer house was set afire by unidentified persons late on Saturday night at Tentulijhari in Sundargarh district, Inspector General of Police (Western Range) Pranabindu Acharya said.

      The police have arrested Pradesh Kumar Das, an employee of the World Vision, a Christian Charity, from Khadagpur while escaping from the district at Buguda. In another drive, two other persons Vikram Digal and William Digal have been arrested from the house of Lal Digal, a local militant Christian, from Nuasahi at Gunjibadi, Nuagaan. They have admitted to having joined a group of 28 other assailants.

      Here are some examples of attacks on Hindus by Christians throughout the India
      http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/5576.html
      http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/6381.html
      http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/6298.html
      http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/6618.html

      IN KOLKATA I AM SEEING DAILY HOW THE NUNS OF MISSIONARY CHARITY ARE DOING FRAUD IN THE NAME OF SERVICE OF GOD AND CHRISTIANITY.
      RONY YOU ARE IN A FOOLS PARADISE.

      Partha Sarathi Chowdhury,
      Kolkata, INDIA.

      • John
        July 24, 2012

        My dear Hindu brother,
        It seems that you must have been suffering from past hurts in your heart from Christians. but even though u hate us, we as christians still love you, pls forgive any mistreatment or if your sentiments are hurt by any christians. Because people do make mistakes. but we are a people of peace and our god is a god of peace,May god bless you.

        Please keep your faith intact. Hindu belief is oldest in this world and best in all respect. No conversion from any side is required anyway, any more.

        Now, we have to fight Islam jointly to save the Humanity in this Globe. This is my ultimate mission.

        John, Your Indian brother.

      • John
        July 26, 2012

        IT SEEMS THAT YOU ADDED THIS COMMENT TO MY COMMENT

        [ “”Please keep your faith intact. Hindu belief is oldest in this world and best in all respect. No conversion from any side is required anyway, any more.
        Now, we have to fight Islam jointly to save the Humanity in this Globe. This is my ultimate mission.”” ]

        but i may not agree to the word “FIGHT” as i am a man of peace & i personally believe that conflict can only be solved by peace
        so all we can do is pray for the peace in India for god is a most all-powerful being & he can establish peace for he is real god & we don’t have to fight for it.

        & every person in the world believes “my(his) religion is the best religion and the oldest religion” but we need to also have a heart for other people with different faith or else there will a great unrest in the whole world & a great war & disturbance and no-one in the world will survive.

  4. Humanity triumphs
    March 11, 2012

    Sir,

    Please review this and inform also to others. Tell as many as you can.

    http://www.indianvoice.org/a-call-to-all-patriots-petition.html

    Preach the same to others and let the false faith perish. Thank you.

  5. Prince Thomas
    June 23, 2012

    I would like you to know how many of you know the difference between Catholics and Protestant Christians. Though both the sections can be called “Christians” both are totally different in their identity. In fact, it’s the Protestant Church who initiate the so called allegations of conversion and not Catholics. But, Catholics are always seen in the forefront of all the Social Works and therefore everyone tags everything on the Catholics while they are innocent. And I vehemently oppose your idea of Christians Spreading Hatred. In no way. By taking a video clip (which can be totally forged for the sake of making enemity) you cannot say that all Christians do the same. Look at the role of Christians in the Development of Our Nation. Are they not on the forefront to eradicate illiteracy and to provide better health? If the Christians were on a rage after conversion then why have they not crossed the 2.4% margin even after 50 years of Independence? What’s their number now? from 2.4% it downsized to 2.3% together with Hindus who came down from 83.4 to 80.5% while Muslims increased from 10.7% to 14%. So do you mean to say that Christians are the reasons behind this? I think you’re not really angry with Christians but as a blog which strives to unite Hindus it’s your duty to find fault with other religions and bring hatred. Because, hatred is the best weapon to destroy any community. How can Christians spread hatred when Jesus tells “Love your fellowmen”? Missionary Charity Sisters do not convert anyone to Christianity. They take care of the abandoned as they are and when they die, are given the same death ceremony according to the person’s religion and not according to Christianity. Can you find a large area churchyard to bury all those dead in their centres? Either that you’re jealous of your inability to start such a great pious venture or just to bring hatred against Christians to meet your personal vendetta. I wish if you would thing out of your box and look at the reality. I am totally against Christians converting Hindus and I never support it nor the Catholic Church. Don’t blame the Catholics for the wrong doings Protestant Church people. Finally, don’t compare Christians with Muslims and their works, we are totally different and will remain so till the end of the world. We Love Christ and We Love India. You cannot find a single Catholic getting involved in anything to destroy the Nation. We work for the progress of the nation. We are, we were and we will do only good to the nation and you really know it. It’s really easy to saw the seeds of hatred among people, all what I want to tell you is to be true to the reality and don’t fudge and divert the facts. Thank you..

    • Santhosh
      July 7, 2012

      Mr.Thomas what you said I can agree to a limit. Now protestants are doing the worse. But Do you know Goa Inquisition., Portuguese Catholics killed and tortured Goa Hindus to get converted in 16 century. If you are Indian Im sure your forefathers are Hindu.., But Catholics are decent from protestant nowadays. You dont know how much mental torture are affected to these people to get converted what you seen in the above videos are true.
      Brother everyone say bad Hindu caste, even that was mis interpreted by British missionaries ..Everyone was equal in India until British arrive they divided people and ruled as they thought a only way to capture India.

      Lord McCauley (prominent British Parlimenterian and statesman) quoted ” before 175 years in British Parliament on his mission to India by Queen Victoria.
      ” I have travelled across the length and breadth of this country for years I have not seen a single beggar or a thief., Indians have high moral values with high character. They are more wealthy happy and strongly united.They learn everything from their ancient education system. Only way to break India is to break their Spirituality & ancient education system and make them believe English is superior finally a dominated nation of us”…..

      WHO IS THE CAUSE OF ALL MISERY… We are not against christianity but against conversion by missionaries.

      • Prince Thomas
        July 7, 2012

        My name is Prince
        Thank you Santhosh for your comments.
        I really understand your concern and worries about conversion and I am totally against it. I say this not just for name’s sake, but from heart. Still, I would like to bring one fact to your kind notice that Britishers ruled the country for 200 years and still Christians remain as 2.3%. If you look into the Christians in Pakistan (I mean, India before independence) the total would not be more than 3%. But, you look at the growth of Muslim population in India, (include the population of Pakistan too, they were part of India) and if you read between the lines of history you would find one truth that had Britishers not come here, India would have been a Muslim state. Do you have any doubt about it? Even after independence Muslim population grew from 10.7 to 14. Take the sum of the Muslim population of Pakistan and India and then you’ll get the real picture of conversion. So, beware of the real enemy. Had the Catholics resorted to conversion then how could the population come down from 2.4 to 2.3%? Even in Kerala, Christian population came down from 20% to 19 while Muslims rose from 20 to 25%. And, I wonder why this forced conversion of Mughal Empires, which harmed India the most, is not at all mentioned in any of the history text in India. Remember that there was no country called India before the arrival of Britishers, rather, the present India was a collection of thousands of kingdoms ruled by kings though everyone had hindu belief. So, it was easy for the Mughal Empires to defeat one kingdom after another and convert. Now, after Britishers came to India, they defeated all Mughal Emperors and we have such a vast land called India and they brought all those regions under one name where Hindu belief and practices are held. So, i would say that Britishers are the real savior of Hinduism. Today, 65 years after independence, after getting so much of education, now the hindus come to realise their power and their need for unity. It’s high time to be united. Stand united and stay united. All i wish you to do is to look at facts and figures as they are and use your intellect and education at truth and not at distorted facts. It’s the 2.3% of Christians who own 33% of educational institutions in India, which means, the main reason for the intellectual development (education) in India.
        Together with you I oppose religious conversion. After all, what’s the use of converting people if they don’t live well? I am all the more realistic and understand your concern. As you said, I too am against conversion.

  6. sacchi
    September 19, 2012

    Prince, just one question to you, are you proud of being India,its culture and language?
    If yes, why is your name a western name. I have visited many christian countries in the world but they have maintained their culture and names. Dont you feel odd with a borrowed religion or a borrowed name? I think christians and muslims see religions above country.

    • Biswajyoti Bhattacharjee
      January 1, 2014

      Take the example of Indonesia,you will find names of Muslims as Meghawati Sukarnaputry,Sushilo Yodhoyono,etc. But they are Muslims by faith. Indian Muslims and Christians should learn a lesson of this.

  7. Rajiv
    September 22, 2012

    @Sacchi Hindus also see Religion above country

  8. Murali
    January 28, 2014

    Dear gentlemen , I am an SC man from Andhra Pradesh ., and I never experienced any restrictions entering any temple, but by showing this old odd practice , christians are converting Hindus to their foreign religion and making them as christian terrorists . and these terrorists are directly blaming threatening Hindus.

    some pastars are exaggerating Aryan and Dravidian theory and they are telling that only dravidians are true people of India and Aryans are out siders from Europe and Aryans are Hindus , and so all christians should hate Hindus and Hinduism …

    How many years we will read same foolish theory of Aryan invasion in our text book.. this theory in fact developed by British people to divide Indians during their colonial rule, later it was proved wrong, but today this theory is being used by christian terrorist to convert Hindus and make them christian terrorists ….

    christianity divided russian union, divided Sudan country , and going to divide Nigeria soon. so pls kindly beware of this christianity, it will divide our country North India and south India, and save Hindus in their own country

    otherwise we Hindus become minors in our own country soon

  9. t.d.chandna
    May 22, 2014

    HINDU DHARAM HI SARVA-SHRESHT HAI, KYU KE YE KOOP-MANDOOK NHI HAI-IT ALLOWS FREE FLOW OF THOUGHTS-EK AMERICAN SCHOLAR NE, JIS NE PICHLE DINNO HINDU DHARAM SWIKARA HAI KA KEHNA HAI KE HINDU KA ARTH HAI–DEFENDER OF TRUTH–HINDUISM IS PERFECTLY SCIENTIFIC WAY OF LIFE–HINDU DHARAM HME VEDIC SAGAR KI AUR LE JATA HAI JHA SE HME SPIRITUALISM,PEACE AUR HAPPINESS MITI HAI–T.D.CHANDNA.

  10. Snehlata Singh
    August 31, 2014

    In a country where children are homeless on streets, where women are in general unsafe, where progress and self dependence is the need of the hour, all that my clergymen can talk of is conversion! Sad!!
    Why Christian Missionaries cannot do anything without conversion!!!

  11. Murthy BN
    November 8, 2014

    I SAW AGGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN OF CHRISTIANITY IN THE NAME OF PRAYERS AND MEETINGS ALL OVER THE HYDERBAD CITY. EVERY DAy NEW POSTERS ARE PASTED ON EVERY POSSIBLE WALLS/PILLARS /GATES AND LOCALITIES OF THE CITY.WE FIND NO WALL WITHOUT THIS .THE TARGET OF THESE FORCES IS VERY CLEAR i.e TO CONVERT HINDUS TO CHRISTIANITY.IF THE SITUATION CONTINUES THE DAY IS VERY soon WHEN HINDUS BECOME MINORITY IN INDIA. Should we allow this to happen?

    • vidya
      November 29, 2014

      1.Why does not Government nab and jail christian preachers who claim they can “cast out demons” and “heal” blindness and deafness for spreading superstition? T.V channels should also expose christian babas and not only hindu ones.

      2. In Goa, in places like chimbel and kamrabhat and wherever poorer people live in colonies, my house-maid tells me that people are being converted to Christianity by giving loans to start businesses and to build homes and by giving free medical aid and food, specially to AIDS positive people. Who can fault the poor people for accepting these bribes? Once converted, they chide their unconverted relatives and friends for worshiping ‘saitan’. When I mentioned to my maid that the Bhagwad Geeta preaches that all things good and bad come from the all pervading divine source and there is no concept of ‘saitan’ in hinduism and that all persons who act in a principled way, with humanity, will achieve moksha , she was confused as she had never heard of the Bhagwad Geeta. Unfortunately, these people have had no exposure to the spirituality of India and to the feeling of expansiveness and interconnectedness that comes from following any non-dualistic, Karmic religion. For them it is a matter of just substituting a village or family deity with a global three-in-one God and a mother of God with free goodies to boot. In the bargain, societies get divided and foreign powers get purchase points to split societies further apart. The response should recognize this and inculcate the good work done by missionaries, because the karmic religions need to survive and become widespread in order to prevent destruction of the world from war, under influence of the self- fulfilling prophesies of the two proselytizing Abrahamic religions. converted, they chide their unconverted relatives and friends for worshiping ‘saitan’. When I mentioned to my maid that the Bhagwad Geeta preaches that all things good and bad come from the all pervading divine source and there is no concept of ‘saitan’ in hinduism and that all persons who act in a principled way, with humanity, will achieve moksha , she was confused as she had never heard of the Bhagwad Geeta. Unfortunately, these people have had no exposure to the spirituality of India and to the feeling of expansiveness and interconnectedness that comes from following any non-dualistic, Karmic religion. For them it is a matter of just substituting a village or family deity with a global three-in-one God and a mother of God with free goodies to boot. In the bargain, societies get divided and foreign powers get purchase points to split societies further apart. The response should recognize this and inculcate the good work done by missionaries, because the karmic religions need to survive and become widespread in order to prevent destruction of the world from war, under influence of the self- fulfilling prophesies of the two proselytizing Abrahamic religions.

  12. Shantanu
    April 18, 2015

    i only have one question to ask..if christanity is so good and jesus is the only lord and all curse will go away by adopting the christanity…then why western world is loosing faith in it adopting other religions like hinduism,buddhisim and also islam as well…….this is all number game…since christian population is drastically reducing in western world…missionaries want to compensate that by converting poor people from Asian and African countries by offering them money and taking advantage of their poverty……
    Satya Mev Jayate

  13. Devaprathap Raja
    May 7, 2015

    Christianity in Kerala and their hoax stories and false claim of high caste origin.

    There was a steady influx of Middle Eastern immigrants, Arabs, Persians, Syrians and others from Central Asia, long before the birth of Christianity and Islam. A very extensive trade and economic link existed directly between Kerala and the Middle East since time immemorial. The Jews claim that the first Jew arrived in Kochi in King Solomon’s merchant fleet (970B.C.). Logan assumes: “Perhaps as early as the time of Moses, the great Jewish law-giver, this commerce existed, for cinnamon and cassia played a part in the temple services of the Jews.” The Chinese and Arabs were among the prominent foreign nationals who traded with the Zamorin of Calicut, St. Thomas would have converted these immigrants. When Ibn Batuta visited the Malabar Coast he found merchants not only from Arabia and Egypt, but also from Zanzibar and Ethiopia and even Tunis. It is likely St.Thomas would have converted many of these immigrants. In a caste-ridden, superstitious and conservative society, it was impossible to get higher caste Hindus to marry the immigrants. The wives and concubines of the immigrants were from untouchable castes such as Mukkuvas,Pariahs and Ezhavas. Kerala rulers allowed the wives and children of immigrants to enjoy some of the privileges of higher castes. Conversion of the families of immigrants by St. Thomas is wrongly interpreted as conversion of Nambboodiris, although there were no Namboodiris at the time of his arrival (1st Century AD). Earlier texts such as” Thomma Parvam “are all not contemporary accounts of 1st Century A.D. but later accounts after a lapse of several hundred years, and therefore, are mere exaggeration, fabrication and imaginary. But it is a historical fact that, before the arrival of European powers, Christian immigrants and their native descendants of Kerala had links with Eastern Christianity that flourished at that time in Mesopotamia, Assyria, Syria (Aramea), Phoenicia and Egypt. The contact was only occasional due to difficulties in travel and political anarchy that prevailed in the Middle East. The arrival of Thomas of Cana with 400 men increased Christian population when he and his companions married local women belonging to untouchable castes. He is portrayed as a Jew by some Syrian Christian families, but Armenian records and Portuguese accounts categorically say that he was an Armenian merchant.
    Most studies of social change in Kerala have focused on the institution of caste and the extent of social mobility of various castes. Syrians at the time of the arrival of colonial powers were landless and they were not even peasant cultivators. Political and social exigencies of the period compelled them to increase Syrian Christian population by large scale conversion of lower castes, outcastes and slaves by Metrans and church leaders. Syrian Bishop Mar Coorilos met Grant Duff, the Governor of Madras, at Calicut in January 1882 and gave him a lengthy account of Syrians in Kerala. He told him, “This Christian community subsisted and gradually increased, both by its intrinsic elements and by the admission of new converts, from the people living in the neighborhoods of Syrian churches.” (Ref. Logan, Malabar Manual, p.197). So, even before the arrival of European powers, native Syrian church had converted many local people who were not Brahmins or Nairs but only lower castes (mainly coastal mukkuvas and Ezhavas) who were known as untouchables.
    William Logan, Malabar Manual, p197
    S. K. Vasantan, op cit, p 82, , V. Nagam Aiya, Travancore State Manuel, Vol. III, (rpt) Trivandrum, p 139 & T. K Joseph, Malabar Christians and their Ancient Documents, passim

    According to Syrian Christian tradition St. Thomas came to Kerala in 52 A.D., and converted some Nambudiri Brahmin families such as Kalli, Kaliankara, Sankarapuri, Madapur, Vyampalli, Muttedal, Kottakara, Panakamattom, and Pakalomattom . These names of Nambudiri families are fictitious and cannot be traced in any of the records of Nambudiri Brahmins. Besides, this tradition evolved at a much later date and was not a contemporary account. These fictional names are being maintained to legitimize fanciful claims. Syrian Christian tradition and many other legends found in ancient Christian songs like the “Veeradian Pattu, Thomma Parvom,” and Margom Kali Pattu, claim conversion of Nambudiri Brahmins by St. Thomas. But all these songs originated after more than thousand years or much later, and not composed in the first century when St.Thomas was in Kerala. Conflicting dates, AD 1601 and AD 1792, assigned to these works give room for suspicion about their authenticity, the language used in these songs are “Vattezhthu” that comes only after the 17th century. Even the composer’s name, Ramban Thomas, alleged to be a Nambudiri Brahmin, is highly doubtful as there was no such person in Nambudiri records. The notable document concerning St Thomas is the ‘Acta Thoma’ attributed to a Syrian named Bardasanes , an apocryphal work bearing transparent signs of its Gnostic origin. It was preserved with some modifications in Greek and in Syriac. It also tells about the missionary activities of St. Thomas and his martyrdom. But this work too was of a later origin and different dates are given by scholars, AD 220 or AD 400. According to another Syrian Christian tradition four Nambudiri families of Niranam, Tayyil, Pattamukkil, Manki and Madathilen of Thiruvalla were converted by St.Thomas. But there is no historical evidence about these Nambudiri settlements in Thiruvalla in the 1st century AD. It is probable that some fugitive St Thomas Christians of Mylapore or lower caste converts would have used these fabricated names with the false claim they were Nambudiri converts to avoid persecution by caste-Hindus. None of the Nambudiri records has also any reference to the existence of converted Nambudiri settlements in Thiruvalla in the 1st century AD or the conversion of their community members. Even in the Brahmin tradition found in Keralolpatti there is no reference at all to the conversion of Nambudiris, although it tells about a certain ‘Thomman,’ an opponent of all Vedas’, came to Malabar and ‘converted many prominent people in the land, including the reigning king, Bana Perumal. But Keralolpatti, embellished with myths and legends, was a compilation of 18th century to bolster the superiority and authority of Brahmins in Kerala and not a contemporary narration. It is likely that the Mylapore migrants and local converts, mostly untouchables such as Ezhavas and other outcastes, who moved into Thiruvalla from other areas coined new family names or adopted locality names of Niranam, Tayyil, Pattamukil, Manki and Madathilen and claimed for themselves superior status to hide their past. It must be borne in mind that the converted untouchables and slaves were fleeing from their original places to other areas to escape persecution and punishment. With no Nambudiri or Nayar available for conversion in Thiruvalla and nearby regions, the emergence of a large Syrian population in that region is a clear proof that they were all from lower castes.
    A Journal for National Resurgence, Mangalore, Vol. I. No. 4, pp 37-43)
    Dr. C. I. Issac
    The claim for the existence of Nambudiri Christian settlements in Thiruvalla was a mixture of fable, hearsay and calculated false propaganda which has made even foreign writers think that it was a fact of history. It is a stark reality that it was due to large scale conversion of untouchables, especially Ezhavas that Christian settlements arose in those areas. Logan points out that the Nambudhiri settlements were mostly in the Calicut, Ernad, Walluvanad and Ponnani taluks of Malabar, and in the Cochin territory in North Travancore. No Nambudiri family of pure birth had settled to the south of the Kollam River in the 1st century AD. Francis Day and Samuel Mateer also affirm that the Travancore Rajas have “in vain tried every means in their power to induce them to reside there.” It is quite improbable, therefore, that Nambudiri settlements existed in Thiruvalla area when St. Thomas or at a later period when Thomas of Cana came to Kerala. Missionary records give us an idea of how new settlements of lower caste and untouchable Christians came into existence in different places and how those converts were tutored to assume for themselves the status of higher castes just to escape persecution by upper caste Hindus. As S.N. Sadasivan, an eminent research scholar who has gone through missionary records, points out: “From the beginning it was the practice of the converts to leave their native village and settle down in a place normally few miles away or as a distant station as possible and to take up avocations other than that of their caste for intelligible reasons. It has enabled them to conceal their past, sever from their close relations and claim a status better than that of their unconverted brethren still struggling to stand up against their neighboring caste-Hindus, in the new environment they had chosen. The first missionary who understood this social value of this mobility and anonymity was Joseph Peet , ( the missionary actively converted lot of Ezhavas in the Mavelikara area and settled them near some trees and there family name comes like “Painummood, Alummood ,Thengumootil “etc ) who always for the safety of his converts from slave caste sent them to other places where they could make new claims and build up a better image for themselves.”
    West Asian merchants (Jews, Phoenicians, Romans, Persians, Arabs etc.) who visited Kerala shores from time immemorial and women of Kerala origin (mostly from lower castes – since the powerful classes, as is the practice even now, never gave their women in marriage to strangers). The Muslim ‘Moppilas’ of Malabar have no problem accepting this fact because Muslims, having been rulers of India for nearly a thousand years never had to face any discrimination from caste Hindus. Also, Muslim religious leaders, unlike Syrian Christian priests and Bishops, generally discourage caste, race or ethnic consciousness among their folk. Not so with Syrian Christian ‘mappilas’ (mappila stands for son-in-law in Tamil and Malayalam too). till recently, the vast majority of them were at the level of serfs and peasants living off the mercy of the feudal rulers and landed gentry of Kerala as subalterns to them (with hard work, no doubt).Getting early access to modern education, thanks to the British missionaries, they found themselves in the professions and businesses much earlier than even many upper caste Hindus and the one thing to secure acceptance and social respectability in the prevailing feudal milieu was a claim to ancestry high enough in the social hierarchy; and here comes handy the fiction of Brahmin conversion et al as invented in the 16th century by the vested interests among their clergy and helped in its propagation by the Portuguese who reached Kerala then and their Religious masters in the hierarchy of the day in Rome(of course with the intention to grind their own religious axes in India) (Ref.
    Syrian Christians were clubbed with lower castes and they had to do “ oozhiyam “service in Temples and Nair , Namputhiri agricultural lands . Travancore History archive says: Dewan Peishcar Reddy Row was appointed Dewan in Kanni 993 M.E. (September 1817 A.D). Having attained the object of his ambition, he with the help of Col. Munro, the British Resident , tried to distinguish himself in his new office. Several enactments were passed in the form of Royal Proclamations relieving the people from obnoxious imposts and restrictions. Chief among them were:- The Christian ryots were relieved from their “Oozhiyam” service of all description connected with the Hindu religious ceremonies. They were also exempted from attending to public work on Sundays.
    V. Nagam Aiya, Travancore State Manuel, Vol. III, (rpt) Trivandrum
    A. Sreedharamenon, Kerala Caritram, Madras, 1995, p 130.

    Rev. Samuel Mateer account about Syrian Christians, AD 1883
    “the Syrians appear to be in tlie lowest condition in the northern and mountainous districts in Miivittupulay direction, where the Mission has, as yet, been able to do very little.
    Between Cottayam and Trichoor, a distance of about 70 miles, a great 6eld for Christian labour lies open, for which the Aiwaye Itineracy has been established. At Miivittupulay and Todupulay there are large numbers of Syrians, poor, hard- working, and kind people, renting lands from the Nambiiri and Nair landlords, for which they pay four or five times the seed sown, and cultivating areca palms and the fruits, roots, and grains on which they live. They have no Scriptures or other books, and
    few schools. Nor is there a Sirkar District school at either of the two district towns just mentioned. The priests conduct service and go off to their houses; sometimes indeed there is no one to hold worship in the churches. The surrounding populations have very little Idea as to what God the Syrians
    worship, or how.

    The ignorance and spiritual darkness of these poor nominal Christians is very great. On a tour in that quarter not long ago to see the country, I very carefully and cautiously examined
    those whom I met, or stayed with, as to their knowledge of Christian truth. It was heart-rending to learn of the criminal indifference and negligence of the priests, and to find old men and young quite ignorant, not only of the Scriptures, which they never read nor hear read, but even as to who Jesus Christ
    was. ” I know nothing of it ” said an old man with whom I conversed, A youth with handsome open countenance could not tell what kind of person or character Jesus Christ was —
    Whether a Brahman, a government officer, a carpenter, or what I He “could not say.” One could hardly credit that such ignorance was possible ; but a native friend, who accompanied me, also repeated the queries in various forms to make sure that they were understood, and both of us used their Syriac
    terms. The old man could mumble over the creed, but did not know the meaning. ” What then do you go to church for ? ” “To do the appointed things, and worship the cross. The priest shows us God.” But he could not tell why the cross was. worshipped. Another said he went to worship the Apostle
    Paul, but did not know who he was, or what he did.’ “Why are you baptized ? ” ” For the religion and for the soul ; to make me a Mapillay,” were the answers. ” Why do you attend the holy communion ? ” ” Because it is the custom. We are told to do it, but do not know the reason why.” ” Is it the
    same as eating your rice ? ” “Oh no, something quite different, but I do not know what.” Scarcely any knew who the first man was, and such like things. I found that the Syrians were beneath the Roman Catholics of the neighborhood, both in knowledge and in morals.
    .”Rev.Samuel Mateer, Native Life of Travancore|year=1883}}

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