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Hindus under severe Conversion threat. Why no secular leaders in India raised voice against conversion business?

No leader raised his voices against Mother Teresa’s blatant conversion conspiracy.

Saint of the Gutters

A VOICE AGAINST COATED CONVERSION WHEN HINDUS UNDER SEVERE THREAT………

Our political netas-Champions of secularism-selectively

by Dr Mrs Hilda Raja  (pachake@yahoo.com) 

Opposition targets government on conversion in Agra’… ‘Bid to impose Hindutva agenda”…This and more we heard and saw in Parliament on ‘ghar wapasi’. According to Mayawati, ‘Secularism is part of the Constitution-they (read RSS) are violating the basic tenets, BJP has a hand in it’. It was all pandemonium let loose in both the Houses with members dashing into the well. It seems as though some new danger has been sighted by them some danger to the Constitution and to the secular fabric of India.

Suddenly the MPs have become sensitive to upholding the Constitution when they do not even uphold the oath they take to function without fear or favor…. It seems that at least occasionally the MPs are conscious that we have a Constitution. When the UPA government was in power the Constitution was eroded and every tenet of it dented and over ridden. But what I cannot understand is the fact that conversions have been always forced. This was the strategy from time immemorial. Not only in India but the world over

But let us focus on India alone now. It has been a continuous conversion business. The invaders who came to India did not just stop with plundering the country and becoming rulers but they brought along their missionaries and their churches. First it was the Dutch, then the Portuguese then the French and finally the English. All these indulged in ruthless conversion through force and whatever methods possible. The poor Indians had no other option but bend to the powerful.

This is relevant to realize that all Indians-have their ancestry in Hinduism. St Francis Xavier used every force-fraud and even the Inquisition to convert Hindus. Those who did not fall in line had to flee or were tortured and killed. History records his barbarism and the brutality with which he dealt with the Hindus. Places of worship were raided-destroyed and his public punishment was chopping off the hand for those who followed any form of Hinduism. The pillar where these unfortunate ones were dragged and hand chopped off is called the Pillar –De- Amputation. This pillar even today exists in Old Goa. This is the reason why the victims of Francis Xavier oppose the public display of his corpse. But the Church has raised him as a saint.

That may be old history but what about the much revered Mother Teresa. Did she not use blackmail to convert? Innocent children who were dying-the old and the infirm were baptized all under the garb of caring for them. They were not even aware of what was happening to them. They were in pain and in utter misery. Today the church looks on innocently. So when one says there should be no forced conversions I am flabbergasted because all conversions have some sort of a force-be it physical, psychological or social. Allurements and enticements were used especially where there is starvation and disease and pain and hopelessness. How did the North East States become Christians-due to their volition? I know a Salesian priest who used to write to my husband to send money for conversion. He even revealed that ‘the priests do not go openly but through the catechist(a low level functionary of the Church) we  approach the tribal people and give them money and promise other benefits’ .So for a loaf of bread for a few rotis and for a few rupees these unfortunate ones are ready to change their religion. Is this faith or force? Has this changed? Not one of the so called political leaders raised their voices against MotherTeresa’s blatant conversion business? Where was the Constitutional norm then? Where was secularism then? So it is only when the Hindus engage in ‘ghar wapasi’ that our political netas become aware of the Constitution and secularism and cry themselves hoarse-They then pose as great defenders and champions of secularism. This is a fraud and an injustice. This double standard is what they always resort to.

STOP THE MOC

When I was working in a village project in the outskirts of Chennai-near Mahabalipuram many of the SC families told me that they were converted by the local parish priest. This they said was for their children to get admission in a minority run institution and or to get some employment. They did not mention cash .I am fully aware that the tactics used in Tamilnadu and Andhra Pradesh (may be in other States also of which I do not have firsthand knowledge) the priests tell them plainly to continue with their Hindu names and enter in their application forms as SCs so that they get all the benefits due to the SCs but in reality they are all Christians. So Varadan becomes Victor for the Church record but for government records he continues to be Varadan. Take the example of Andhra Pradesh’s former Chief Minister Rajasekaran Reddy. Many thought he was a Hindu but his first name is Samuel. These are not exception cases but the normal rule-the double deception that the Christians used. The thousands of conversions that he affected through the evangelical church of his by giving them money and luring them with other promises is well known to those in AP

But a reading of the historical data on Church history will be an eye opener for those who today think that ‘ghar wapsi’ is against the Constitution and secularism. Where did this notion of secularism go when thousands of years conversion was only through force? In recent times too it is covertly done. Whether some netas like it or not how does one account for the millions of other religious followers. Does it mean that on their own accord through faith and belief and enlightenment they all got converted?

Did the Muslims not convert through the sword? Is there no love jihadi? It is common for the Muslim/Christian to marry a Hindu and then later convert the partner to the Muslim /Christian religion. But as far as I know the Hindus did not go in for conversion. Today one talks of ‘ghar wapsi’-I fail to understand why this full throated Opposition. Where did this opposition go when conversions were taking place in India earlier and now only through some form of force. The Constitution has paved the way for this business by granting Minority Rights to the Minorities. Hence right from a tender age children are segregated in Christian institutions and in Madrassas and groomed to think that they are different from others on the basis of religion. So we Christians think and proclaim that we have the ONE true God…Children brainwashed thus are subjected to forced-an intellectual force- whereby they think in terms of differences and grow up thus in ghettos. We have Catholic doctrine for the Catholics, Bible classes for the Christians and Ethics for the Hindus. All this in Minority institutions which is run on government money. I do not know if other education Institutions also follows the same. Is this secularism? As though the Catholics and the Christians and the Muslims do not need ethics!!!

Why is it when one says that India is a Hindu country there is so much of opposition and anger-but then one says that Pakistan is a Muslim country and so are other Middle East countries there is no adverse reaction. If in conversation one terms the UK/US and other European countries as Christian countries there is no objection. Why this allergy to call India a Hindu country? That does not mean others cannot live here and that does not mean that secularism is thrown out. It simply means that Hinduism was in India as far as memory goes-it is as old as this country. Hinduism sprung from the soil of this country and did not come from any other shores-unlike other religions. So what is the problem in calling a spade a spade? Similarly when one talks of Hindutva the so called secularists see red. Is it wrong or against secularism to be nationalist and a patriot? I think it a weakness and a phobia of the so called ‘secularists’. After all let us be honest when Jinnah wanted Pakistan the reason he gave was that the Muslims will not be able to coexist with the Hindus. So he wanted the country to be partition which was done. Now can the Hindus not have their own ethos and their own religion and their own perception of nationalism? What is the problem in accepting this simple truth that this in no way destroys secularism.

 For that matter it is the politicians who are hell bend in destroying secularism. Why even the demand of reservation on the basis of religion is anti-secular. For the sake of vote bank politics the political leaders divide the people. We have other religious leaders even threatening the Hindus. The political leaders simply looked the other way when conversions in large numbers were taking place. But now that the Hindus have started the ‘ghar wapasi’ they pretend to be shocked that secularism is being destroyed. I remember some years ago in Trichirapally in Tamilnadu one of the pastors baptized even those who were not present because their names were on the list but were unable to attend the service. It is well known that evangelical churches look for numbers and even poach on other churches members. Foreign funds flow in depending on numbers. One has to watch a couple of channels in the TV to realize this. The psychological blackmail that these pastors indulge in is a fraud and vulnerable people fall a prey to it. The testimonies of cures-the revelations etc are all a fraud inflicted on a vulnerable already affected and afflicted populace. The political netas are not worried about this. As long as it is not Hinduism they simply look the other way. It seems to be a sin or an aberration if one is a devote Hindu but if one is a devote Christian /Muslim then it is not frowned upon. And that the devotedness of being a Christian/Muslim mean…even when it comes to following the anti-secular dictates of their religion like the ‘fatwa. It is no secret that Muslim scholars keep on repeating that Islam is a peace loving religion. Is that what the world experience –see in the Islamic countries. Even another Islamic sect is not tolerated. The World Human Rights forums do not raise their voices against the persecution, the killings the beheadings and above all the terrorism unleashed by religion. It is only when the Hindus raise their voices and reconvert then hackles are raised that it is unconstitutional and against secularism. This is not only a double standard but an injustice and a display of a warped perception. [Courtesy: Hildaraja’s Blog]

Related: Exposing Mother Teresa.

Mother Teresa, a fanatic, a fundamentalist, and a fraud.

Mother Teresa Not a Saint: New Study Suggests She Was a Fraud.

The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice by Christopher Hitchens.

Mother Teresa’s Legacy is Under a Cloud

STOP The Missionaries of Charity ~ A Facebook Cause Page  by: Hemley Gonzalez.

‘Mother Teresa’ No Saint, Glorified Suffering,Media Creation.

Christians As Brahmins New Method Of Religious Conversion.

Courtesy: Links used above.

3 comments on “Hindus under severe Conversion threat. Why no secular leaders in India raised voice against conversion business?

  1. ramanan50
    December 27, 2014

    1. For my post ‘Mother Teresa, No Saint, Glorified Suffering Media Creation, I received a comment and i have sent a reply.

    I felt that the reply can be posted as a Blog for others also to know the story behind The Bible and the Role of Constantine.

    “hi,
    Thank you for your comments.
    My comment on the subject is based on
    1.That the bible was compiled and not revealed ;
    2.It was compiled by Constantine after calling for a Conclave of Cardinals.
    3.They were asked to choose among some three hundred versions of the Life and preaching of Christ..
    4.Constantine chose one Text it would keep his regime in tact , in the wake of protests in his regime..
    He also wanted a temporal authority to control this Religion and ensured that he created one that would support the Regime.
    This is the origin of papacy.
    Now, why one should go by this ‘Beatification’ by a body is ,fist of all , Political by Nature?
    Mother Teresa is one who is by The Church and she was involved in Conversions and the medical Miracles are not.miracles?
    Kindly refer my posts on Christianity for more on Christianity.

    Ref:Constantine had invited all 1800 bishops of the Christian church (about 1000 in the east and 800 in the west), but a smaller and unknown number attended. Eusebius of Caesarea counted 220,[19] Athanasius of Alexandria counted 318,[20] and Eustathius of Antioch counted 270[21] (all three were present at the council). Later, Socrates Scholasticus recorded more than 300,[22] and Evagrius,[23] Hilary of Poitiers,[24] Jerome[25] and Rufinus recorded 318. Delegates came from every region of the Roman Empire except Britain. In Ethiopic Christian literature including both theFetha Negest and the Kibre Negest, the First Council of Nicea (Niqya) is traditionally referred to as “the three hundred and eighteen Orthodox Fathers”.

    http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/mother-teresa-blogcomment-origin-of-the-bible/

    2. I Informed my friend Mr.Sekaran,Myiladuthurai that Chistians, in their over zealousness of promoting Christianity,so strong is their Religion and their Faith in it, are capable of doing anything for numbers.

    Why would they not, with Millions allotted for Religious Conversions by The Vatican and the innumerable sub-sects(Christianity , like The Seventh Day , Eighth Day, Tenth Day Churches contributing their might, in terms of money and Manpower!

    They entered as Traders,become Missionaries,Regional Language scholars(like Robert Caldwell,Veerama Munivar),posed /pose as Educationists, Social workers to increase their flock,not by Conviction, but by the lure of money and power.

    …..Advent Christian Church Building at Tiruvanmiyur.See the cloth poster displaying in Tamil ‘Christuva Brahmana Seva Samithy’

    Yesterday morning (Thursday, 6-8-2009) I got a phone call from some agitated senior Hindu citizens of Tiruvanmiyur. All of them were complaining about a poster put up by the Advent Christian Church at Tiruvanmiyur. The poster has been put up by ‘Christuva Brahmana Seva Samithy’, announcing that there is going to be a ‘Kathaa Kaalakshepam’ by “Poojyasri Bhagavatar Vedanaayakam Shastrikal” on 8-8-2009 (Saturday) at 5 PM at the Advent Christian Church premises. The main man behind this initiative is one Sadhu Chellappa who is endevouring to beat the conversion record of St Francis Xavier (1605-1552) in Goa and elsewhere in India in the 16th century, Robert de Nobili (1577-1656) in Madurai in the 17th century, Fr Schwartz (1726-1798) in Thanjavur District in the 18th Century and Bishop Caldwell (1814-1891) in Tirunelveli District in the 19th Century.

    What angered the enlightened Hindus of Tiruvanmiyur is that the Advent Christian Church is misusing the name (and of course caste!!!) of the Brahmin community in order to use it as a ploy to mislead and deceive young Hindu men and women in general and Brahmins in particular, in order to lure them into the commercial trap of treacherous missionary Christianity…

    https://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/06/12/christians-as-brahmins-new-method-of-religious-conversion/

    3. Mother Teresa’s Mission was to convert. people of other faith to Christianity, making use of the economic backwardness and poor health of the People.

    Note Teresa’s concentration on the North Eastern parts of India and her popular Office is in Kolkata with easy access to the North east of India.

    I have been told by people whom I met ( of Her Order) that she used to ill-treat the patients , had tantrums thrown in private but in Public she was the personification of Sobriety and ,Piety and concern for the sufferings of the Poor while she glorified ‘Suffering’ in private.

    This has been confirmed by a Study by a Canadian Group.

    Also it is worth remembering how she was ‘beatified’ by The Vatican even when thee were murmurs against it.

    I have always looked down on ‘beatifying’ people by The Church!’

    How an Institution which earmarks billions of Dollars for religious Conversion, goes about the task of converting people and setting targets for Conversion can ‘beatify’ if not as an incentive for future people to convert more.

    Please read my post on the spending of Money by the Vatican.

    Now Read on.
    http://ramanan50.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/mother-teresa-no-saint-glorified-sufferingmedia-creation/

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  2. Dr.Mahesh Chandna
    December 27, 2014

    All the so called saints in christian are those who did maximum conversion of local people by hook or crook . St. Xavior and Taresa were among them . The problem is that when mother Teresa was doing conversion on the name of cherity even leaders of parties like BJP were silent . they never raised this issue in parliament or on social plateform . from other secular parties you dont even expect . All the foreign missionaries involved in so called cheritable work should be banned . If any freign organisation want to send money for cherity it should come through indian govt.

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  3. mathesisuniversalis
    December 27, 2014

    Reblogged this on L'horreur islamique.

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