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A Hindu Temple and a Islamic Mosque is not the same thing. Obama should apologize for his misleading statement.: Brahmachari

If a church or Hindu temple okay at ground zero, why not mosque?: Obama

Fri, Sep 10 10:48 PM

Washington, Sep 10 (IANS) President Barack Obama Friday again backed controversial plans to build an Islamic centre near the site of 9/11 attacks in New York reminding critics that the US was at war against terrorism not Islam.

‘All men and women are created equal, they have certain inalienable rights, and one of those is to practice their religion freely,’ he said at a White House press conference.

‘You can build a church on a site, you can build a synagogue on a site, if you could build a Hindu temple on a site, you should be able to build a mosque.’

Obama’s comments came amidst a controversy about a Florida pastor’s plans to burn the Quran on the ninth anniversary of the Sep 11, 2001 terror attacks unless the proposed Islamic centre was moved away from ground zero in exchange for the burning being called off.

Obama said he recognised the sensitivity in the area because of the 9/11 attacks and acknowledges that family members are continuing to experience pain and anguish over their losses.

However, he urged people to remember who their real enemies are. ‘We are not at war against Islam. We are at war against terrorist organizations that have distorted Islam or falsely used the banner of Islam,’ Obama said.

‘If we’re going to deal with the problems … (of) reducing the terrorist threat, we need all the allies we can get.’

Obama pressed that in fact, the anti-Islam sentiment and a war between the West and Islam is exactly what terrorist organizations are hoping for.

‘Al Qaeda, that’s what they’ve been banking on,’ Obama said. ‘The overwhelming majority of Muslims are peace-loving – are interested in the same things that you and I are interested in.’

Obama stressed it is important that Americans do not believe the entire religion of Islam is offensive.

(Arun Kumar can be contacted at arun.kumar@ians.in)

A Hindu Temple and a Islamic Mosque is not the same thing. Obama should apologize for his misleading statement.: Brahmachari

(This message has been sent to the 9/11 protest organized by Hindu Human rights Watch from Upananda Brahmachari, Editor, Hindu Existence)

Barack Hussein Obama does not know about the Reality of Radical Islam.

How could he really understand the difference of a Christian Church, a Hindu Temple and an Islamic Mosque?

I do not know extensive about Christianity and Jesus. But I believe that there is no scope of hatred preaching from the services of a Church. May it be for Justice, Peace and Love. And the Hindu Temples are the abode of peace and spirituality which embrace everybody in the fold of highest philanthropic attributes.

But the Mosques are the workshop of devils who want only Jehad to destroy the civil society to capture this world under a monolithic Islamic pattern. They don’t know democracy, not peace, love, brother hood anything with the non-believers. Mosques are the epicentre of all Islamic hatred, disharmony and the catastrophe for us. It is an arsenal of Allah to end up humanity.

“The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army”… as they think so, why do you think different Mr. Obama?

The whole American Nation is against the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, where over 3000 innocent lives were lost under a complete Islamic massacre. And you are allowing a refuge of those radical Islamists in the name of Ground Zero Mosque. The rest of world is also against such aggression of Islam in NYC and USA.

Equating Hinduism with Islam, you did a Himalayan blander. Mr. President of US, you should apologize and keep the Ground Zero Mosque ever restrained.

There should be no Mosque at Ground Zero. Repeat, No Mosque at Ground Zero.

Brahmachari is available at hinduexistence@gmail.com or at +919007543148

14 comments on “A Hindu Temple and a Islamic Mosque is not the same thing. Obama should apologize for his misleading statement.: Brahmachari

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  2. sucha
    September 14, 2010

    Hindu Human Rights Watch spokesman: “Never trust any politician who says Islam is religion of peace”
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/hindu-human-rights-watch-spokesman-never-trust-any-politician-who-says-islam-is-religion-of-peace.html

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  3. Littlenan
    September 15, 2010

    I really find it hard to understand why the White House and those in authority are not trying harder to support the families of those killed by Muslims nine years ago on 9/11.

    Why would any sensitive person believe that it is good for community relations and local harmony to build a mosque at Ground Zero? Not just an ordinary mosque either – a MEGA mosque with the name Cordoba?

    No, the people who want to build this monstrosity are arrogantly placing a celebratory/victory tower at the place of their fellow believers biggest act of wanton murder. There is no excuse. It was their fellow religionists who killed those innocents and Islamic countries around the world celebrated when they did.

    This is nothing to do with freedom of religion. Followers of a religion should not be free to kill those it despises and then build a monstrosity to celebrate the crime.

    The only way to defeat these people is not to pander to them as if everything was the West’s fault. The West should wake up to the fact that many Islamists are bound to their book and way of life on pain of death if they leave.

    They have to be made to adhere to the laws of the countries they live in and treated as strictly as any Westerner would if they broke the law.

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  4. NATION BUILDERS
    September 30, 2010

    WHY MUSLIMS BREED LIKE COCKROACHES?

    Muslims in India have a much higher total fertility rate (TFR) compared to that of other religious communities in the country.[11] Because of higher birthrates and an influx of migrants from neighboring Bangladesh, the percentage of Muslims in India has risen from about 10% in 1991 to 13% in 2001.[12] The Muslim population growth rate is higher by more than 10% of the total growth compared to that of Hindus.[13] However, since 1991, the largest decline in fertility rates among all religious groups in India has occurred among Muslims.[14]

    Demographers have put forward several factors behind high birthrates among Muslims in India.religious determinism is the main reason for higher Muslim birthrates. Indian Muslims are poorer and less educated compared to their Hindu counterparts.[15] However, other sociologists point out that religious factors can explain high Muslim birthrates. Surveys indicate that Muslims in India have been relatively less willing to adopt family planning measures and that Muslim girls get married at a much younger age compared to Hindu girls.[16] According to Paul Kurtz, Muslims in India are much more resistant to modern contraceptive measures compared to Hindus and as a consequence, the decline in fertility rate among Hindu women is much higher compared to that of Muslim women.

    According to a high level committee appointed by the Prime Minister of India in 2006, by the end of the 21st century India’s Muslim population will reach 320 to 340 million people (or 18% of India’s total projected population).[18] Swapan Dasgupta, a prominent Indian journalist, has raised concerns that the higher Muslim population growth rate in India could adversely effect the country’s social harmony

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  5. NATION BUILDERS
    September 30, 2010

    REAL HISTORY OF AYODHYA
    When the Muslim emperor Babur came down from Ferghana in 1527, he defeated the Hindu King of Chittodgad, Rana Sangrama Singh at Sikri, using cannon and artillery. After this victory, Babur took over the region, leaving his general, Mir Baqi, in charge as viceroy.
    Mir Baqi allegedly destroyed the temple at Ayodhya, built by the Hindus to commemorateRama’s birthplace, and built the Babri Masjid, naming it after Emperor Babur.[9] Although there is no reference to the new mosque in Babur’s diary, the Baburnama, the pages of the relevant period are missing in the diary. The contemporary Tarikh-i-Babari records that Babur’s troops “demolished many Hindu temples at Chanderi”[10]
    Palaeographic evidence of an older Hindu temple on the site emerged from an inscription on a thick stone slab recovered from the debris of the demolished structure in 1992. Over 260 other artifacts were recovered on the day of demolition, and many point to being part of the ancient temple. The inscription on the slab has 20 lines, 30 shlokas (verses), and is composed in Sanskrit written in the Nagari script. The ‘Nagari Lipi’ script was prevalent in the eleventh and twelfth century.
    The first twenty verses are the praises of the king Govind Chandra Gharhwal (AD 1114 to 1154) and his dynasty. The twenty-first verse says the following; “For the salvation of his soul the King, after paying his obeisance at the little feet of Vamana Avatar (the incarnation of Vishnu as a midget Brahmana) went about constructing a wondrous temple for Vishnu Hari (Shri Rama) with marvelous pillars and structure of stone reaching the skies and culminating in a superb top with a massive sphere of gold and projecting shafts in the sky – a temple so grand that no other King in the History of the nation had ever built before.”
    It further states that this temple (ati-adbhutam) was built in the temple-city of Ayodhya.

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  6. kareem
    November 8, 2010

    Mr. bramhchari I think u don’t know about Islam and even Hinduism
    If u know then tell me first of all who divide the men into four 1)Brahman 2)Kshatriya 3)viasya 4)shoodra what is this? first u destroyed the brotherhood, humanity and peace.
    tell me bramhcharyji that if Islam is radical religion then why so many person are attractive and exited to know about Islam
    tell me how many person are accepting Hinduism.
    and I can confidently say that many more person are accepting Islam in entire world every day.
    and coming in the shadow of peace and brotherhood.
    masque is the great source of peace brotherhood and always give the lesson of humanity.
    whenever Hindu temple is source of earning money for Brahman.
    your statement has come in jealous and misunderstanding so correct it.
    and you have need to getting knowledge of Islam and accept Islam for peace.
    because Islam is the only religion for solution of humanity.
    So it’s my opinion to u that don’t give any statement about Islam without knowledge.

    thanks
    regards
    kareem choudhry

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    • Upananda Brahmachari
      November 9, 2010

      For Kareem above, I am giving the para/point-wise reply to him.

      Upananda Br.

      Mr. bramhchari I think u don’t know about Islam and even Hinduism

      Agreed that I am not such a scholar like you. Just I am trying to reveal the truth of every religion and also continuing to search the truth of Hindu Dharma to infuse it into the services of Humanity in the light of this great school of thoughts, spirituality and philosophy.

      If u know then tell me first of all who divide the men into four 1)Brahman 2)Kshatriya 3)viasya 4)shoodra what is this? first u destroyed the brotherhood, humanity and peace.

      Totally misleading information out of little learning. Hindus never divided men into any four or four thousand. Hindus tried to classify the essential social attributes for a holistic human development. It is not caste based as misinterpreted. As Sri Geeta holds “chaturvarnam maya sristam gunakarma bivhagasha” (4/13). Swami Vivekananda pointed out that the aforesaid attributes are the part of any human life cycle to maintain his advancement whenever and wherever it is required so. The generalization comes from the basis of accumulated attributes which signify the trend of an individual. A man educating himself or imparting knowledge to others signifies his Brahmnical attributes, but when that man defends his religion from the Ashuras (demonic elements) as a warrior or protects his mothers and sisters from the anti-socials, he possesses his Khastriya spirit. In the area of day to day business, he acts as a Vaishya and in the field of service to the others he obviously maintains the responsibilities of a Shudra. It never contradicts anyway and appreciated by everybody. However, that man possesses his particular expertise for his chosen field of education, defense, trade or other services for which he may be conferred with a particular identity. Hindu scriptures say : “janmana jayte shudra, sanskare dwija ucchate”.

      Hindus don’t believe in the theory of Islamic division like MOMIN and KAFFIR. Hindus believe in the universal brother-hood – “vasudhaiva kutumvakam”, not the partisan brother-hood of mimic Muslim clan or the hatred to the Kaffirs. I dare to say, it is the Allah who divided the humanity and peace for ever in the theory of believers (momin) and non-believers (kaffirs). The whole of us, including Islam and Muslims are also suffered for this. It is pity to blame any Muslim in this connection.

      tell me bramhcharyji that if Islam is radical religion then why so many person are attractive and exited to know about Islam.

      Choudhuriji (kareem choudhry), the whole world now know the fact of 9/11, 26/11, Madrid blast, metro blast in Russia, Iraq-Iran war, the Talibans in Afghan and anywhere, the Hamas, Al Queada – all as the sign of peace of Islam. The whole world is very much attracted by these heinous activities of orthodox Islam. You may call it radical. This radical Islam killed just 3021 Muslim and injured thousands in a particular year 2009 in Pakistan. Read this report (Pakistan suffers record number of deaths due to Islamic violence || http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/11/pakistan-militant-violence-death-toll) …. and think over it.

      tell me how many person are accepting Hinduism.

      There is no such exact figure with me. But I have strong belief that every day men and women from other faiths are accepting Hindu Dharma for getting their peace and solace. The ISKCON, BAPS, RKM, ARYA SAMAJ, BSS and other Hindu organizations are performing actively in this field of preaching of Sanatana Hindu Dharma.

      and I can confidently say that many more person are accepting Islam in entire world every day.

      Yes, I can also say that Allha, the merciful plans everyday to get them nearer to the heaven, even through the bomb blasts in the mosques when Muslims engage themselves to offer Namaz even in Friday. Do you know how many mosque attacks were happened in Pakistan this year and last year? Yes, all these are the benediction of Allah and the pleasure derived from those blasts are entirely the boon of accepting Islam. It is obvious. Mash Allah !

      and coming in the shadow of peace and brotherhood.

      Hindus are always getting peace and spreading brotherhood through their benevolent attitudes to others. And Islam is camouflaging always under the “shadow of peace and brotherhood”. Islam does not know the real Peace and Brotherhood.

      mosque is the great source of peace brotherhood and always give the lesson of humanity.

      Alhambulliah ! Certainly you have captured the report of Red Mosque of Islamabad. Then you are so enriched with the full proof information.See the report of Lal Masjid of Islamabad.(Pakistan Mosque seize||http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/11/pakistan.qanda). You consider that “The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army” – as said by Turkish Prime Minister Recip Tayyip Erdogan.

      whenever Hindu temple is source of earning money for Brahman.

      This is true. But most of them offer their lions share for the development of the Trust and NGOs attached there for humanitarian services taken by management there. The financial clarity of the organizational temples erected by ISKCON, BAPS, RKM, ARYA SAMAJ, BSS etc. are beyond any question. They do not siphon any fund to al-Qa’ida, Al-Shabaab, Al-Badr, Ansar al-Islam,
      Fatah al-Islam, Harakat ul-Mujahidin, Jaish-e-Mohammed like peace loving organizations. And old age traditional temples like Tirupati Tirumala, Kashi Vishanath, Vaishno Devi, Savarimala, Kanchi Muttham, Rameswaram etc. run various schools, colleges, educational institutions, hospitals, rest houses for pilgrimages, prasadam, cultural research centres, social awareness campaign etc. by the Trustee Boards or the managements there. But, always there are so many scopes to expand all these. And all these are being possible as the myth of “earning money for Brahman” is a myth, not real.

      your statement has come in jealous and misunderstanding so correct it.

      I have no jealous, only pity to Islam as its followers are head-locked. Thank you very much to instigate me for reviewing my level of misunderstanding as I think the Reform of Islam. Simply it is incorrigible.

      and you have need to getting knowledge of Islam and accept Islam for peace.

      Thank you again for giving me some great knowledge about Islam – the religion of peace (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com) or a big stack of dead bodies. Sorry, I can’t accept a death before my normal demise.

      because Islam is the only religion for solution of humanity.

      The only religion slaughtering humanity with optimum brutality.

      So it’s my opinion to u that don’t give any statement about Islam without knowledge.

      Thanks for passing your suggestion, but revelation of truth is my duty. Inshallah !

      thanks………………………Namaskar
      regards…………………….Hari Om
      kareem choudhry……….Upananda Brahmachari

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      • Rahul
        November 20, 2015

        Thanks a lot upanandaji, for ur truthful reply to Mr Kareem…but 99%muslims are really “head locked”.. They are so orthodox to accept or understand ur writings .

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    • George Brooks
      March 11, 2016

      Mister, are you Kareem or Choudhry? Clarify first! If you don’t know, ask your MOTHER or your GRANDMOTHER if she’s alive. If they too cannot clarify, keep quiet.

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  7. Utsav Chakroborty
    November 9, 2010

    Upanandaji,

    Also mention, that more that 70% of westerners believe in transmigration of soul and Karmayoga, both being unique to Hindu schools of thought. But unlike Mr Kareem Choudhary, we Hindus do not jostle for Houris in heaven by counting the number of Qurans we have peddled.

    Alas, if a Freudian sense of “ya Allah”, is all that Mr Kareem has, to put a vineer of self respect on the pain and suffering each of his generation has felt, since the day his own Hindu forefathers were raped, butchered, and forcibly converted, by the very religion he claims to defend; then Hindus will do their best to save him and his future generations from Islam.

    All he has to do is ask….. And we will accept him back to Hindu Dharma.

    Utsav Chakroborty

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  8. Rakhal Saha
    November 9, 2010

    I HAVE TO CONGRATULATE SRI UPANANDA BRAHMACHARI FOR THIS APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO THIS LACKY OF ARAB IMPERIALISM PRESUMABLY OF SUBCONTINENTAL ORIGIN.
    THIS MAN WILL NEVER LEARN THAT IN ISLAM THE ENTIRE WORLD IS DIVIDED BETWEEN DAR UL ISLAM (THE WORLD OF ISLAM, FULL OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY, RESERVED ONLY FOR THE SO CALLED MOMINS OR BELIEVERS AS EVIDENT IN ALL THE MUSLIM WORLD WITH THE AMOUNT OF KILLINGS EVEN ON SACRED FRIDAY IN THE MOSQUE DURING PRAYER TIME); AND DAR UL HARB (OR THE WORLD OF WAR), WHERE THIS BEAUTIFUL BELIEVE SYSTEM HAS NOT MADE ANY HEADWAY AND IT IS THE DUTY OF EACH AND EVERY PEACE-LOVING MOMIN TO ENGAGE IN JIHAD IN EVERY STRATAGEM TO BRING THOSE KAFIR COUNTRIES UNDER THE RULE OF ISLAM (CALL IT ARABIAN IMPERIALISM!).
    THE MAJORITY OF MUSLIMS, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, ARE NOT ARABS — BUT THEY HAVE TO PRAY FIVE TIMES A DAY IN ARABIC, WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY ARE PRAYING FOR.
    I HAVE SEEN UMPTEEN NON ARAB MUSLIM HOUSEHOLDS WALLS ARE DECORATED WITH FRAMED QUOTES FROM HOLY BOOKS — BUT NOBODY CAN DECIPHER THE LANGUAGE, THE POOR SOULS ONLY FEEL THEY MUST BE SOME KIND OF DIVINE WORDS!
    IF ONE READS THE WHOLE OF THE KORAN ONE COULD SEE THIS BOOK IS NOTHING BUT TERRORISTS’ HANDBOOK.
    IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME I AM QUOTING BELOW THE EXACT WORDS IN ARABIC ALONG WITH ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS FOR THE ENLIGHTENMENT OF PEOPLE LIKE JANAB KAREEM CHOUDHURY AND HUMANITY IN GENERAL.

    See some details here: http://islamicinspiration.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/allah%E2%80%99s-own-words-as-revealed-by-muhammad/

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  9. S Kumar
    November 9, 2010

    1. The division is totally based on the functions they carry out in Society. A Sudra could be a Brahmin if he engages himself in intellectual pursuit and vice versa. But in course of several millenea, the transfer of knowledge and skills from generation to generation gave more opportunities to follow the avocations of parents with exception of disciples joining the stream.

    However Hinduism is not so aggressive in following Caste system as Muslims and do not deny the burial or cremation after death based on Castes whereas, a recent report stated exhuming of a body of an Ahmadia Muslim from the grave in Lahore as the burial ground was only for Sunni-s. In South India, a corpse of a Muslim was literally thrown out of the gates after they entered the burial grounds of another sect!!

    VASUDEIVA KUTUMBAKAM was applicable when there were no Abrahamic faiths on this globe and cannot be applied now with Christianity calling for inquisition or burning on stakes on refusal to convert and Islam calling for killing all infidels refusing to convert. We have to move with times and cannot quote outdated philosophies promoted by Hinduism then.

    2.Thanks to internet and Wahabbism/ Tablighi spreading terrorism across the globe by all modes of killing infidels and even internecine killings among Muslims, more and more people are studying Islam and its Quran devoting more than 50% of the verses to sex and women, and remaining to war and killing of infidels which were not known earlier and most were believing the dictum “ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL RELIGION” until they read the authorised translations of Quran!!

    3.Hinduism and Judaism are not converting religions. One has to be born a Hindu. However if anyone voluntarily accepts the norms of Hinduism he is free to follow the faith and philosophy and here are no Mullah-s or priests to baptize ..etc in Hinduism.

    4.Opinions differ. It is however reported that thousands are leaving Islam secretly as apostasy calls for killing in ISlam, and they risk their lives by abandoning the murderous faith.

    5.Read Quran. Peace and brotherhood is applicable only after conversion and among Muslims but not with infidels!!

    6.It is in mosques and Masjid all terrorist attacks are planned and carried out. Raid in mosques have revealed storing of lethal arms as Juma Masjid raided by Musharraf’s Govt. revealed. Brotherhood only for fellow Muslims but death for infidels.

    7.Comment of Kareem shows his total ignorance about temples. All funds received by large temples are controlled by Govt. Temples give free food for anyone coming in and Muslims are not exceptions as I have myself seen Muslims taking part in free lunch with sweets. Temples do not get grants from donors abroad like Saudi or Iran funding millions for propagating Islam and building mosques and Madrassa-s.

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  10. Srimanthan Arya
    November 11, 2010

    It will be a futile attempt to make a jehadi understand that Islam is the source of terror. Anybody in search of ‘Terror study’ at primary level as well as in research level may consult the Quarn which is nothing but a good ‘ Guide Book of everlasting terrorism”. I shall request Karrem Ji to read Anwar Sheikh’s Books on Islam before the world cease to exist due to jehadi onslaught.

    Sarbe bhabantu sukhinah, sarbe santu niramayah
    sarbe bhadrani pashyantu, ma kashchit duhkhbhak bhabet.

    Srimanthan Arya

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  11. Praveen Choudhury
    March 13, 2016

    Kareem CHOUDHRY? You must be a convert from not long back. Ask your grandparents. Your ancestors were raped and tortured by the same religion which you are defending now. They are all repenting your actions now.

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